MIDDLE AGEish
Authentically and unapologetically keeping it real, discussing all things Middle Age (ish), when metabolism slows and confidence grows. Middle Age(ish): A time of transition from dreaming of who we will grow up to be and looking at the legacy we will leave behind. Listen to this podcast and join the hosts of Middle Age(ish) as they sit around with a glass of wine to discuss all things related to middle age with some amazing guests!
MIDDLE AGEish
Sofa Talk: From Self Worth to Skydiving!
Are we measuring our worth by what we do for others? Join us as we unravel this societal conundrum and the pressures women experience. Our frank, but heartfelt conversation explores the wisdom of silence when negativity looms. We also take a step back from the serious to dive into the world of music - our favorite singers inspired by Rolling Stone's top 100 singers of all time. The list may be missing some of our favorites, but it gives us a chance to appreciate the amazing vocals of Whitney Houston, Adele, and many more. Speaking of music, we've got some hilarious tales to tell about karaoke nights and Lisa and Ashley's love for Garth Brooks.
From harmonies to high altitudes, we then make a thrilling (or terrifying) transition to talk about skydiving. According to Pam, it's an unexpected mix of peace and adrenaline that you wouldn't want to miss! The rest of the Middle Ageish ladies are giving that experience a hard NO! As we wrap up, we eagerly anticipate our next episode featuring a guest from Ireland! Tune in for an enlightening and entertaining journey through life, music, and thrilling adventures.
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Welcome to the Middle-Age-ish podcast, authentically and unapologetically, keeping it real, discussing all things middle-age-ish, a time when metabolism slows and confidence grows. Join fashion and fitness entrepreneur Ashley Badosky, former Celtic woman and founder of the Lisa Kelly Voice Academy, lisa Kelly, licensed psychologist and mental health expert, dr Pam Wright, and highly sought-after cosmetic injector and board-certified nurse practitioner Trisha Kennedy-Roman. Join your hosts on the journey of middle-age-ish.
Speaker 2:Hello everyone and welcome back to another episode of the Middle-Age-ish podcast. I'm Trisha Kennedy-Roman and I'm joined here today with my co-host, ashley Badosky, lisa Kelly and Dr Pam Wright, and you're joining us today for our sofa talk.
Speaker 3:Hello, I love our sofa talk it's so random and so enlightening, and just We've fun. We learn so much.
Speaker 4:We do, we do.
Speaker 3:Prior to getting on the mic.
Speaker 2:I know exactly We'll save that for another day.
Speaker 4:Yes, a little bit more wine. Yes, that would involve Tito's.
Speaker 3:I was going to say Tito's for today.
Speaker 5:Yeah, Tito's for today.
Speaker 4:If it's a Tito's day, then you know that it's going to get a little wild. Every time I see about.
Speaker 3:Lotitos, I think of you. Oh my God, that's a huge drink. Yes, did you know what happened today? I decided to share something on my singer page. Yeah, sometimes, sometimes I'm sorry I share stuff, so I shared this reel. I'm big into reels because I'm convinced.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, I go down the rabbit hole every single night Because I'm convinced I have ADD, so I'm convinced that they're just long enough to grab my attention. It gets to the point straight away no Fath. So there was this girl talking today about how our value as women is emphasized by what we do for others, so that we're a good person because we're a good mom, or we're good at our job, or you're a good daughter, or you're a good sister. So I happen to share this on my singer Facebook page, which not my private Facebook page, because it was just kind of I don't know why I?
Speaker 3:don't know why, I just share it to them, and it was meant. Met with a little bit of resentment, which I'm kind of, somebody kind of responded going yeah, but men are the breadwinners, men do this, men do that. And I was like but this wasn't about men, this wasn't an against men.
Speaker 4:That's the problem. It wasn't even against women, it's just like hey, you know, a perspective, perspective.
Speaker 3:And it actually is kind of it's kind of true. It is kind of true.
Speaker 2:I think that's how we measure ourselves too.
Speaker 3:That was her point. It was like it's all encompassing. You don't feel like her. She was relating it to. You know, no one ever says I'm a really good mom because I took time out of my schedule to go and run a marathon, because that made me healthy. So she was like you know, nobody realizes that and I was like that's so true, it's so true.
Speaker 5:But it's stereotypical. Yes, and so was that response that you received very stereotypical and hence the problem with the world?
Speaker 3:It really is. There's such division.
Speaker 4:I'm like, oh, my God, why is it?
Speaker 5:I mean?
Speaker 4:where did the days go?
Speaker 3:if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all and I don't think he meant to not be nice, but I think this was his perspective.
Speaker 4:He was like well, you know, but it was judgy.
Speaker 3:It was well, it was just like what aboutism Like? What about men? I was like, but it's not about men. This is like I didn't say men don't feel this way. I was just like sharing something that I feel, that I feel as a woman and that I feel others can relate to, and it was just putting better words than sometimes I can put things into.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think that we are just, for whatever reason, living in a culture of immediate response and an offense.
Speaker 5:But it's so easy though, because it's not to your face. I mean it's really. Is it in behind what?
Speaker 4:in you, like seriously, like what in a person? What's there that makes them immediately jump that you are insinuating or insulting, insulting something in their life Like what is that? Because a man could have posted that I could have seen it, we could have probably all seen it. I would scroll by.
Speaker 5:Exactly, I wouldn't be like, even if you don't agree.
Speaker 4:Like a little keyboard warrior, but I don't even know how you can't agree with us.
Speaker 3:Like, as a man, I actually don't understand how, as a man, you can go. Well, that's not the way it is. I'm like well, have you walked in our shoes Like for five minutes? Have you walked or have you spent? And until that day, there was another reel that I'd seen Just before this. This is probably what triggered it in my head. There was a woman who went in to clean her kitchen and she was going into clean the kitchen and everything's all over the place, and then she got totally distracted because her daughter's new clothes had arrived and then she went. She went in to make herself a carrot juice because she hadn't eaten, and when she went to make carrot juice there was no glasses, so she had to go to the dishwasher and the dishwasher was full and she had to unload it's like you're a golden retriever running around day square.
Speaker 3:Yes, squirrel my day versus and then you're trying to work and everything and it's just, it's a lot, but again I go back to.
Speaker 4:I don't know why our culture, our society has taken such a drastic turn, but I think there are people who just want to push buttons.
Speaker 5:They're not happy and they're miserable and their thing is just to flip. Let me just you know what I mean, just like why we need a constant therapy button.
Speaker 4:So when some idiot makes a post like that. You can just be like, instead of like the thumbs up or the heart or the crying or the angry or the poop emoji, oh yeah, you just have therapy. Like, like, get help.
Speaker 2:Exactly, I can take it, your emoji, ashley.
Speaker 4:Be a big bird.
Speaker 3:I'm a big bird, I'm a big bird, I guess Get help, I know, but you know that thumbs up emoji, though isn't really like a thumbs up emoji oh shit, it's gone. No, oh, no, no, no, no, it's not, it's like an FU emoji. Oh, so if somebody said you, oh my God.
Speaker 5:So I apologize to everyone in our group chat if I am saying right now?
Speaker 3:No, you can like no, you can like the post. It's when you send the actual emoji. Oh, I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2:Oh, it comes like okay, Because I get so offended when people do that and I didn't know why, but now I understand it.
Speaker 3:You understand why? Yeah, like my husband, like you know, he sends a thumbs up.
Speaker 2:It is a thumbs up.
Speaker 3:It boils my voice.
Speaker 5:It's kind of like it's K versus okay, oh yeah, or the O like K sends me that all the time, that O emoji.
Speaker 4:That okay emoji. Anyone out there that I have sent a thumbs up, I am not saying you didn't know, I am not saying Thanks a lot. Well, because if I if I mean it, I'll just say FU.
Speaker 3:Well, there you go, I don't, there you go, so maybe those out there that do know me would be like oh my.
Speaker 4:God. No, she totally means it as a thumbs up.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 5:She'll just say FU if she means it, but after the you know that yes.
Speaker 2:After the published date of this episode, though, when you send a thumbs up, I will.
Speaker 3:If you send it to us, we'll know, we'll know, yes, I will still say FU. Yeah, yeah, and now I know that, but still I'm like oh, mike, like who have I sent that to?
Speaker 5:Like a thousand people. We all know that I love emojis.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I mean I'm obsessed with him.
Speaker 3:I love him too.
Speaker 4:I could do an entire dictation of just emojis, and you would know exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 5:So we thought your response should be just a sense of. Thumbs up, thumbs up.
Speaker 2:I nearly did, but you should.
Speaker 5:You shouldn't.
Speaker 3:Well, maybe he'll listen to this podcast. And no, and I know it wasn't meant, I know he wasn't trying to See.
Speaker 4:I actually don't think. I think it was passive-aggressive and I think, he actually did know what he was doing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just so cute. Because the comment Do you have no women in your life?
Speaker 4:like Tiana, that's the thing. His comment had no relevance. He had no knowledge, it was just. It was a keyboard warrior on the wrong side.
Speaker 3:This will get me started on my whole thing about men talking about women's things anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you know it's just that there are people that are just easily offended Like we talk. Yeah, we all have very different views on a lot of things. Right, but we can talk about it and appreciate a person's view, where a lot of people I mean it's just instant offense to someone. Yeah, and that's on both sides, though.
Speaker 3:I often find you know people getting mad at you that you're offended, but they also get mad that you answer them back. So that's what I've noticed a lot on my Facebook as well. Someone will come at me, and if I retaliate, they nearly gaslight me into going. Well, that's not what I was saying, exactly Like it's written right there. Right there, that's exactly. Oh, I've blocked people off my page and deleted people, which I know is really like immature on my part, but you know what, but it's actually, but it's not Because.
Speaker 3:I mean because that's the thing.
Speaker 4:You're not going to change them.
Speaker 3:No, I'm just no point arguing with a stranger either. No, like what's the point?
Speaker 4:And there's no point in arguing with people that you know. No, no, no, Like, it's just like if you can't agree to disagree and be kind and civil, then you just got to move on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's just. You know, see, I guess another reason, ashley, we should be thankful. We can't sing.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, there is no pressure Ashley to sing our page.
Speaker 2:No, this is true. I'm sure Pam could sing.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'd say, Pam, could I think you can all say. No, though we have that conversation every few weeks?
Speaker 4:you absolutely can make it be a good song. I can tell you with a thousand percent certainty that I cannot. But you've sounded really good, yes, I mean you could be a bass paratone.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you did, I can link to you.
Speaker 4:I can Dude. What is that? Where you read the book like it's a book? What is it? Books on tape or something?
Speaker 3:Oh, audio books, yeah, audio books, audio books. I mean, maybe I could, you could, make a voice.
Speaker 4:Although I feel like my normal voice sounds like a toddler or like I don't know, like a high-pitched bird or something I don't know. I don't feel like that at all.
Speaker 3:No, I don't, I don't hear that at all.
Speaker 2:I mean, you're the strong voice, mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:I Actually speaking of singers Harry Reddick, to me, rowling Stone's top singers, like the top 100. You know who was number one. Who have a guess? Have a guess, see if you know.
Speaker 2:Taylor Swift no, she was 86.
Speaker 3:So that gives you, or maybe now I couldn't tell if anybody home. Okay, what is?
Speaker 5:it based on yeah, what is it like? Is it a genre? I don't know.
Speaker 3:I think it was just voice which and not because the person who was number one, but, like some of the top 25 are questionable.
Speaker 4:I would say Celine Dion or Whitney.
Speaker 3:Houston. No, didn't even make the list Very close. Whitney Houston was number two.
Speaker 4:Oh, I do love her. Celine did not make the list. Oh, it's Celine, number five.
Speaker 3:Now I could be like totally out of this, but like a random bet, I know who it is. Who it's, femmeisa. No, didn't make the list, it is our own Lisa. Kelly no, no, no, didn't make the list. Well then, the list sucks.
Speaker 4:So why don't I talk about it? This lady is older than me?
Speaker 3:No, didn't make the list either. That middle no, didn't make the list at all.
Speaker 4:I mean I don't like her either. I think she's on my line.
Speaker 3:I don't, she was way down. She was like no, it was Aretha Franklin.
Speaker 4:Really she beat Whitney Houston.
Speaker 3:Yes, she was first. I mean, I don't Whitney Houston was second tonight, whitney Houston's one of my all-time favorites.
Speaker 2:Where was Adele? Adele was surely on there.
Speaker 3:She was, but she wasn't as high as like she should have been.
Speaker 4:I mean, I'm not thinking anything away from her but I don't think. I don't mm.
Speaker 3:But like as James was, like way down the list.
Speaker 2:She was amazing, I mean seriously ground breaker.
Speaker 4:So who was the top male Do you remember? No, I can't remember, but I know Michael.
Speaker 3:Jackson was really low. I'm Bruno Mars didn't make the list, which is shocking because he's like, phenomenal, I mean. Oh, he's so talented though, whether you like him or not, like he's just. No, it's not even that I don't like him.
Speaker 4:I just well, okay, we all know that.
Speaker 3:I like 80s.
Speaker 4:He's a yummy In country Nobody of the 80s.
Speaker 3:George Jones did make the list.
Speaker 4:Cindy Lauper?
Speaker 3:No, I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 4:I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, no way I'm guys. I'm being sarcastic, although I did love Cindy Lauper back in the day.
Speaker 3:We all have to follow up.
Speaker 4:George Michael, I thought.
Speaker 3:George Michael's on the list Way down as well.
Speaker 4:His voice was amazing. Yeah, so I mean, that's my thing too. The genre that I listened to is probably not, I mean was. Garth Brooks on there no no. Garth. Hi friends in low places.
Speaker 3:I know it's my go to song. It's a laugh me to sing.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, that is my go to.
Speaker 3:Oh my god that is my go-to. Yes, I never know what to sing and I was like blame it all on my rings.
Speaker 4:Oh my god, that is my go-to karaoke.
Speaker 3:Oh, I love Garth Brooks so much.
Speaker 4:And when I drink too much I want to sing it like three or four times. Oh it's fabulous.
Speaker 5:We need a karaoke with Cheetos. Yes, oh my god, did you mess?
Speaker 4:Oh, let's do it OK so, after a couple of T-Nos, I'm going to tell you right now I'm going to think that I'm going to be better than Lisa, so we'll have to record.
Speaker 3:I need to know what. Ashley, I'm going to let you read better than me.
Speaker 5:I'm going to be like OK, celtic woman, I'm ready and we'll be there with the video going.
Speaker 4:Bring me a ball gown.
Speaker 3:And I am ready, he'll be the SNL, exactly.
Speaker 4:And then the next morning I will be like holy shit.
Speaker 3:Because I'm so sorry, lisa, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 5:So I wake up in the video as viral and it's like, oh my gosh, this video is viral.
Speaker 4:It's like I'm not even going to say oh, fun and games. Right until it's on video. Yes, and it's the reason I'm so thankful that I grew up when I did.
Speaker 2:I know yeah, yeah, and in the Midwest, in the Midwest, yes, I would have yeah, I made a complete ass of myself on multiple occasions.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean, I still do so. I can't even. I can't, I can't Well, when you see me do some karaoke. I mean, I've been known to ride a bull in a rodeo and get on a bar.
Speaker 3:I bet I'd say you're wild.
Speaker 4:And dance at Tootsies. I'm telling you right now give me some Tito's or some whiskey, and a party is about to happen.
Speaker 5:This is one of those. No phones allowed.
Speaker 3:No phones allowed, I will be in the corner asleep on the bar. That's what happens to me. I just fall asleep. No, when I got on the bull.
Speaker 4:My sister videotaped it and she's my younger sister and I mean literally after I realized the next morning like what I did. I was like I swear to God if anyone sees that video. I was like they will never find you. Yeah, yeah, and so it was quickly. I know she still has it, so if she's listening, I still stand behind.
Speaker 3:No one will find you.
Speaker 4:Don't do it, one will no, but that's what happens, like I do. Yeah, I think dancing on a bar riding a bull is pretty fun, I agree. So karaoke I you're wild.
Speaker 3:Those are no. No, you are wild.
Speaker 2:I haven't danced in a bar with Elvis so before.
Speaker 3:See, not really.
Speaker 2:Elvis. But.
Speaker 3:An Elvis, an Elvis.
Speaker 4:And then I thought I was Elvis, see, but that's the fun of it Because in that moment you were, I was, you were, yes, that would be fun, I've done anything wild, I'm not wild.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty boring. Now I'm really careful, I mean really.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, no, I'm not wild at all. Me either, I'm too much of a real follower.
Speaker 4:I'm a real follower. Yeah, yeah, me too. Yeah, me too, I'm a real follower. I am too a real follower. Yes, me too, yes.
Speaker 3:I'd love to be wild, though I'd love to Like. The wildest thing I did in my youth was get a tattoo. That was the wildest thing I did, yeah.
Speaker 2:I was not wild.
Speaker 3:I didn't drink until I was like 31. Really, yeah, I didn't like anything.
Speaker 4:All right, we're girls. Trip right here. Oh yeah, pam, it's a fine day we are going to go dance on some bars.
Speaker 2:I think the last girls trip was actually with Pam, which was when I turned 40. So that's been a long time, oh that's fine.
Speaker 3:I was my last girls trip.
Speaker 4:All right, I'm telling you guys right now so fun, we are either going to ride a bull at a rodeo or we're going to go dance on a bar. I never went on a girls trip.
Speaker 3:I'll dance on a bar, but that's because let's do both, yeah, I don't know about the bull.
Speaker 4:OK, first of all, it was super tame. It looked vicious, super tame.
Speaker 2:I think I could have bull ride to Ashley. Oh, you probably could. I am the catcher champion.
Speaker 4:But I will tell you right now Trisha game on Game on.
Speaker 3:I can't wait to video this Because we all know.
Speaker 4:I'm competitive no we are all signing NDAs, just like here we go. Exactly, I'll whip that on my cowboy hats. Oh my god, honey, bring on the sparkles, let's do it.
Speaker 2:Speaking of being wild you guys saw what my son did turning 18. Oh my.
Speaker 4:OK, that is the only thing. Well, there's several things that I don't know if I could do, because I'm slightly scared of heights.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, my child, I would probably. I don't design permission slips anymore, so I see a video of him skydiving.
Speaker 5:But see, I love skydiving.
Speaker 3:Oh, my goodness, you've seen that, you've done that.
Speaker 4:All right, so Pam, pam's wilder than I am.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would never skydive, no, but it's OK I think I would go potty.
Speaker 4:It's kind of relaxing.
Speaker 5:Relaxing, it's like super fun because you don't feel like OK. So like when you're on a roller coaster and you feel like your stomach go, like, you don't feel that at all. It just is like, oh, the earth is getting closer.
Speaker 2:I know your job is stressful, but I realize it's really stressful if skydiving is really relaxing.
Speaker 4:It is, so how does your stomach not just absolutely drop when you so it doesn't at all.
Speaker 5:So the only time it does is when you pull the parachute. That makes you kind of like fly up, because it jerks you back. Yes, because it, and then then you can pull to the left and you like literally will do like loops, and then like 360s around, all right.
Speaker 4:so I would be like key in my pants and throwing up.
Speaker 5:That would be loopy. I think it's so much fun.
Speaker 2:It's so much fun he showed me the video because I had no idea he did it. And he showed me the video and I cried like knowing that. He was like falling from the sky that morning and I didn't know my baby was like skydiving. He said I love you, mom, I know that was me, that was so sad.
Speaker 5:Wait, honey you've got, you've got such a good story, so I'll tell you a funny story. Okay, the very first time I did skydiving, so you've done it more than once yes. Holy mother. Mary, what so? You're climbing right, so they're good to start. Were you drunk? No, you can't. No they test that, like you, could you have to be completely, 100% sober, or yeah, that would not be good, but the first couple of times like you're with someone anyway, so you don't have to worry about pulling you know, yeah, no, that's not my problem.
Speaker 4:That's not my problem is like oh no, no.
Speaker 5:So the funny thing, but this was funny. So I think this time I was the only girl in an airplane full of men boys and they were passing gas so bad the entire time. Gross. Yeah, that I was like please get me out now.
Speaker 3:So when it?
Speaker 5:came time to jump, I was like we're good Cause I was the last one to go and I'm like dude, I am ready to get off right now.
Speaker 4:So was it like a?
Speaker 5:nervous like tube to no Mine was a bit nervous.
Speaker 2:They're just like yeah, I would just shot the pants if I would know.
Speaker 5:It's like men just doing their thing, and they were just like cracking up and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm so ready to jump. And I was like, oh, this is good, I'm ready to jump. So it was like but no, it was, it's really, it's really good, it's not, I don't know about that.
Speaker 4:It's not scary like that. Oh, I'm just gonna stick with dancing on a bar.
Speaker 2:I'm a bull ride. That's just.
Speaker 5:that's what I'm gonna get, Cause you don't feel like you don't feel like it's just really it's almost kind of peaceful. I know that sounds really weird, but it is really kind of peaceful.
Speaker 4:I see you have a I do have a like I, for whatever reason. As I've gotten older, I'm like scared of heights, so I just I know like I wouldn't Nope.
Speaker 2:So Pam is not planning the girls trip. No, 1000%, we are all gonna skydive. Oh my God, let me be the planner.
Speaker 5:We are all gonna skydive, let me be the planner, it's like skydiving versus like bull riding. I'm like oh, I take the bull riding.
Speaker 3:Oops, sorry, I just had the microphone. I will take the bull riding over the skydiving.
Speaker 2:I, yeah, I'll do a real bull over the skydiving, you should try it once it's so peaceful. I won't even do, rather coaster. No, I don't either.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:I used to love those, but see.
Speaker 3:I don't like an adrenaline I think I've. The only way I can explain it is I spend so much of my life being nervous about what I do, so like I spend so much time having an adrenaline rush every time you walk on stage. Yeah, you don't want that. I just don't want. I just want to quiet. I just like to be alive. Yeah, I just want to be nervous.
Speaker 4:I just want everything to be like come. Sometimes those pursuits don't open.
Speaker 3:But I think it's like it's a really small percentage of time.
Speaker 4:Those are the percentages that Lily do need, and I'm looking at you with, like your high heels on the plane.
Speaker 3:I know I mean. How do you?
Speaker 4:see right there, I if I can't.
Speaker 3:She's have to wear flip flops If I can't.
Speaker 4:If I can't wear four and a half inch heels, I'm sorry, I can't do that today and a hair net.
Speaker 2:Well, we've had scuba diving. The night before I was Googling how many days with scuba diving?
Speaker 3:So I would be like oh God, no, I would see how many you do that either. Yeah, cluster pelvic Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. I just don't like fish.
Speaker 4:So I could do that. I'm like I don't swim in the ocean or lakes or pools that. I can't see the bottom of.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I don't swim in the lake at all, I can see that no, nope, nope, nope, nope.
Speaker 4:Well, another note.
Speaker 2:I'm excited for our guest next week. Yes, she's from Ireland and I've never met an Irish person I didn't like.
Speaker 4:I know, I know she's fabulous. I mean, we're going to have two.
Speaker 3:I know and I'll be able to like she'll be able to understand me. It'll be nice.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, she knows, thumbs up is not good again.
Speaker 3:Well, she knows all the bad words.
Speaker 4:She knows more than I do.
Speaker 3:She's. Oh yeah, niamh is fabulous she's fabulous, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:So you've known her for a long time right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know her by 25 years. I think it's about 25 years. I haven't seen her in about 23 years but yeah, yeah, I haven't seen her. I think Scott might have worked with her and she's a musical director as well, so she's done shows and stuff. She's like a multi-talented girl. She's yeah, she's super.
Speaker 2:She's really really nice. But she's written some books now and she does a light-book show. She has.
Speaker 3:I'm excited because she has a book on how to relax and how to sleep. I really need help on how to relax the sleeping I got. How to relax skydive how to relax how?
Speaker 2:to say Pambi's or that book, no skydive. She's not going to recommend that.
Speaker 4:We're not. We're not listening to Pam. I listened to her about most things, except for that, yes. But no, seriously like just, I mean, we talk about it all the time like we're just go, go, go All the time, and even when you know we get to this point and we're happy and it's, you know, like light we're coming to peace with everything, Like it's still hard to unwind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can't do that how do you just stop your brain? Yeah, I'm excited to talk to her, so I'm yeah. I am yeah Cause I know.
Speaker 4:And sleeping without Michael Z? Yeah, would be amazing.
Speaker 5:Well, this is because we sleep all wrong. You're supposed to have no screens at all for at least an hour before you sleep. So no, no, no, no cell phone no like TV, no candle, nothing, nothing Cause.
Speaker 4:I love to read myself Custol lights are like what?
Speaker 5:Yeah, so we'll have to talk to her about that.
Speaker 2:Interesting.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 2:Cheers to our guests. Cheers to our guests, cheers to being wild, I know.
Speaker 3:Sloncha, sloncha.
Speaker 2:Ashley game on Cause she's going to be Irish Right game on she's going to practice.
Speaker 3:All right, maya, you have to practice. Say your Irish Sloncha.
Speaker 4:Sloncha. I'm going to say it as the bad word. I know it's sloncha Sloncha, good girl. Irish For cheers. I'm Irish.
Speaker 3:You're Irish, Cause it's the tallest leprechaun ever. I was going to say do.
Speaker 4:I get a leprechaun for that. Yes, you do.
Speaker 3:Do not ask her about a leprechaun.
Speaker 4:Oh my God, I'm totally going to ask her about a leprechaun.
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